Since I aquired an Losmandy G11 mount without any goto provision I decided to create my own solution. I was a bit reluctant to use a Gemini, mainly because of the cost, but also due to the reliability since the servo motors are somewhat prone to failure. I also like to have complete control over the software/firmware so that no "show stopper" issues will ever be a problem for me. Looking around the 'net I saw other goto systems that seemed capable, but either they had needlessly complex hardware or were commercial systems that cost about twice what they should.
OnStep is a computerized goto system, usually for stepper motor equipped mounts though any step/dir interface motor driver (including servo) should work. It was designed, from the beginning, as a more or less general purpose system and provisions were made in the firmware to allow for use on a variety of mounts including Equatorial and Alt/Az (GEM, Fork, Dobsonian, etc.) It uses an LX200 like computer command set with a few extensions to suit hand controller-less operation.
There's a telescope hand controller App for Android (free in the Google Play Store,) an option to control through a website (Smart Web Server,) and a dedicated physical hand controller (Smart Hand Controller.) Or, on a PC there's ASCOM and INDI drivers for control. These options allow you to setup and control OnStep using a wide range of software including my Sky Planetarium, Cartes du Ciel, Stellarium, SkySafari, KStars, PHD2, etc. You can see most of the control possibilities in the diagram below:
Also, please visit my StellarJourney.com site for updates, links to OnStep resources, my other astronomy software, or to see some Images taken with the assistance of my OnStep operated mounts.
If you find OnStep useful and would like to show your appreciation and support please consider making a small monetary donation. This keeps me motivated and helps cover expenses associated with my projects.
Re: Bluetooth hand control using cheap gamepad
Thank you, I thought I saw something but I am definitely suffering from information overload at this point. Enough of my hardware came in to breadboard my MaxESP2. Got it working but the servo wire order seems weird, I'll start another thread.
I have read some of your warnings about the Bluetooth library issue. I am forewarned. This is the reason I chose the MaxESP2. Two cores means one can handle the Bluetooth (in theory). Your using the Wemos mini wifi offloads that function nicely. My idea is to connect my laptop and planetarium program (not settled on one just yet) using wifi and use the Bluetooth for the gamepad. But first I need to get the existing implementation (using the ST4 wired basic hand controller) working on one of my scopes.
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Re: Bluetooth hand control using cheap gamepad
Howard Dutton
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 08:58 AM, Drew wrote:
Has anyone already done this? Any input would be appreciated.No one that I know of, I thought about it before the SHC existed but never did anything about it. Watch that MaxESP2 and ESP32, the built in Bluetooth only ever worked for me with the Arduino ESP32 libraries version 1.0.0 and then only when the patch I outlined is used.
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Re: CGE power up
Haha, I'm taking a break from tinkering on this thing. It's been non-stop for 3 months. Now that I can actually gather light with it I'm going to put the few things I still need to do to it on the back burner. I somehow bent my coma corrector by over tightening the focuser on it so that's the next must-fix issue. I'm still on the journey, just going to slow down a bit.
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Re: CGE power up
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:26 PM, Aisling Lightworks wrote:
I gathered 3 hours on the Eastern Veil nebula last night.Very nice image. Also 20 minutes on the elephant trunk to see if it would show up. Should be able to do a good job on that one too.Is that a single exposure or a stack? Looks from the graininess that is the former. Is the camera modified for Hydrogen Alpha? Don't forget the Crescent Nebula while you are in that area ...
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Re: CGE power up
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 12:26 PM, Aisling Lightworks wrote:
I've got nothing else to do to my controller now and am going to leave this thread alone, kick back, and enjoy the heavens.Hmmm ... That is not how it works. You need to get with the program ... For us, the journey is more important than the destination. We get to use our rigs for 2 or 3 days a month. The rest of the time? We keep tinkering with it, be that updating the firmware, trying different configurations, checking used equipment on various classified ads, post here and on Cloudy Nights, ....etc. It is like that neighbour that keeps busy tuning his car or motorcycle, adding features to it, buying parts, ...etc., only to drive it occasionally. Or maybe that is only the subset of us who have polluted skies and lousy weather ... Nice images by the way.
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Re: OnStep STM32 and ESP32 SHC Kits
Howard Dutton
Michael,
I've created a "Terms of Service" for the group. You will want to abide to those terms, immediately, or you will find yourself banned. Howard
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OnStep Group Terms of Service
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Re: OnStep STM32 and ESP32 SHC Kits
Michael E. Burk
Actually there was NO NAME CALLING HERE AT ALL? "You count about as well as you read"
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 11:04 AM Khalid Baheyeldin <kbahey@...> wrote: On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:37 AM, Michael E. Burk wrote:
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Re: 2-3 star alignment.
I don't have a specific answer for your question, which is vague. Are you asking specifically
about when the mount is not leveled correctly? But here is some info: The first star alignment just brings the celestial sphere and the internal coordinates together. Internally, OnStep calculates the following errors: ax1Cor=0; // align internal index for Axis1 ax2Cor=0; // align internal index for Axis2 altCor=0; // for geometric coordinate correction/align, - is below the pole, + above azmCor=0; // - is right of the pole, + is left doCor =0; // declination/optics orthogonal correction pdCor =0; // declination/polar orthogonal correction dfCor =0; // fork or declination axis flex tfCor =0; // tube flex The altCor and azmCor are the errors in Altitude and Azimuth (mount not perfectly aligned with celestial pole). To calculate these, you need at least a 3 star align. So, this is the minimum number you should use for accurate gotos. The more stars you align on, the better the alignment. All boards offer a 6 star align, and you can increase that in the Config file (at the expense of a couple of minutes of slowness while the calculations are being done).
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Re: OnStep STM32 and ESP32 SHC Kits
I stopped reading carefully when I realized your post was rubbish. Go get some therapy and try to keep your emotions in check, please.
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Re: OnStep STM32 and ESP32 SHC Kits
On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 12:37 AM, Michael E. Burk wrote:
You count about as well as you readAnother instance of name calling towards another member ... Mike, we don't need that here, please.
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Re: Some bright alignment stars don't show up in the Onstep app
simingx@...
Oh! I didn't know that Skysafari could do that too! That simplifies matters greatly, as I don't have to look up where the stars are :) in fact I just tried it and indeed the App proceeds from the 1st star to 2nd and so on after I click "Align" in Skysafari :)
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Re: 2-3 star alignment.
So, no one knows how onstep calculate its position?
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Re: Some bright alignment stars don't show up in the Onstep app
Peter Dulowsky <peter.dulowsky@...>
I am just wondering, can we limit the number of alignment stars in SHC too? Mag 2.5 sounds about right but perhaps a #define in the code would be even better.
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Re: OnStep STM32 and ESP32 SHC Kits
Goodness, 5 whole days? Looks like you have your first disgruntled customer, George. If you were dealing with a business that had a reputation I could understand some frustration. You ordered from a member of the community who is doing people favors. If you were so worried about your experience you should've just ordered the parts yourself. I like George.
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OnStep STM32 and ESP32 SHC Kits
Hello all,
We are glad to announce that the STM32 Kit can now be ordered from an additional source. The STM32 kit was designed by Khalid Baheyeldin and Dave Schwartz. We started selling kits at near cost, to help fellow astronomers convert mounts to OnStep, while avoiding the often arduous process of identifying and obtaining the various electronic components needed. George Cushing has agreed to stock the kits in the USA, and that makes shipping to the USA somewhat cheaper than from Canada, and also faster. George provides various kits, including one that includes all the modules. Dave Schwartz has been selling kits for many months. He has a limited number of kits, shipped only as a pair with an ESP32 SHC kit. The SHC kit includes modules but the STM32 telescope controller kit contains the PCB and infrastructure parts only. For the STM32 kit, you will need to order the 5 modules, as well as the stepper drivers. These are available from eBay or AliExpress separately. The links to the forms/site are under the Ordering section of this page. Thanks to Dave and George.
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Re: Versions of LV8729 Stepper Drivers
Michael E. Burk
All the other mega2650 boards will work five, they supply 5volts to the stepper drivers.
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:00 AM Khalid Baheyeldin <kbahey@...> wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Michael E. Burk wrote:
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Re: Versions of LV8729 Stepper Drivers
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 11:18 AM, Michael E. Burk wrote:
We found when upgrading 3S printers from MKS GEN L v1.0 to BIQU SKR v1.1 or v.3 that we could not set the Vref higher than 1volt with the FYSETC LV8729's. Only the MKS could we set higher.Logic or power? Logic should not matter, since the STM32 pins are at 3.3V, but they can interface with 5V modules with no issues (e.g. WeMos). The PCB is powered by 5V. The Vref forumla is different: 100 resistors: Amps = V * 0.5 (MKS is always 100 it seems) 220 resistors: Amps = V *1.1 (FYSETC 220) Did you take this into account? I think we need to verify the above observation (not being able to set Vref higher than 1V) on the OnStep boards. I just tested the 220 FYSETC ones, and I can go up to 1.69V. So no issue with the STM32. Can someone who the same FYSETC check on an MKS Gen-L?
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Re: Versions of LV8729 Stepper Drivers
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:58 AM, Michael E. Burk wrote:
Those are FYSETC LV8729's they have 220 resisters, MKS are the only ones that have 100 resisters.Does not matter from a functionality point of view. All the LV8729 I tried work well. This includes the orange MKS with 100 resistors, and two versions of the FYSETC (one 100 and two 220). The only difference is when setting Vref, the formula is different with the 100 than with the 220 (see earlier in this thread).
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Re: CGE power up
After enough training with the PEC (probably 15 sessions) it finally started working well alongside guiding and improved my error by almost .2". Really fabulous results. I've got nothing else to do to my controller now and am going to leave this thread alone, kick back, and enjoy the heavens. I gathered 3 hours on the Eastern Veil nebula last night. Also 20 minutes on the elephant trunk to see if it would show up. Should be able to do a good job on that one too. Thanks to everyone who helped. It's been a great journey.
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